tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post1494180506644432190..comments2024-01-23T12:49:03.885-05:00Comments on Jewbiquitous: Jews Love: Israel, for real this timeAnniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10434918343302976597noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-63976594429120416042007-09-30T11:12:00.000-04:002007-09-30T11:12:00.000-04:00hey, thanks for the mention, just found this today...hey, thanks for the mention, just found this today.<BR/><BR/>ya know, we also have our moments, especially in the israel of today.<BR/><BR/>but bottom line for us is home is just that, home.<BR/><BR/>teheyu briim!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-62840886067073728052007-05-06T13:33:00.000-04:002007-05-06T13:33:00.000-04:00hellovous pouvez laisser vos messages sur jewishe...hello<BR/>vous pouvez laisser vos messages sur <A HREF="http://www.jewisheritage.fr" REL="nofollow"> jewisheritage </A><BR/>a bientotmarcelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720452733537296234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-3064032166234862712007-04-17T05:19:00.000-04:002007-04-17T05:19:00.000-04:00travelling in a war zoneMy mother-in-law tried to ...<I>travelling in a war zone</I><BR/><BR/>My mother-in-law tried to use that argument against our aliyah, until I showed her the statistics on per-capita violent death for Israel and SE Michigan from 2000 to 2003. Michigan was far more dangerous.<BR/><BR/>Now she's planning her second trip here. Although I do think the grandbabies have something to do with that...Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01314897574215489135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-55250526425047153772007-04-16T11:04:00.000-04:002007-04-16T11:04:00.000-04:00The JNF amazing race is open to current college st...The JNF amazing race is open to current college students or birthright alum.<BR/><BR/>And my comment about the high school students parents choosing birthright over a summer program. The reason they were told to wait was "because they can go on birthright for free." No mention of length of time or security. Now I know cost is an issue for some people, but these were upper middle class people who could probably afford the trip. Also, if the cost of summer programs is too high then maybe the Jewish community should be subsidizing longer programs with substance instead of the 10 day express party trip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-5720328481435781242007-04-16T08:19:00.000-04:002007-04-16T08:19:00.000-04:00I don't know if I qualify as an adult yet...but I ...I don't know if I qualify as an adult yet...but I did make aliya (thankfully) the second I finished college. Actually, I would have moved sooner and gone to college in Israel had I not gotten into a tremendous argument with my parents.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-83624094171965647082007-04-13T12:43:00.000-04:002007-04-13T12:43:00.000-04:00Also, I'd say it's dangerous to assume that all pa...Also, I'd say it's dangerous to assume that all parents can afford to send their kids to Israel for 6 weeks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-10899729112771727252007-04-13T10:07:00.000-04:002007-04-13T10:07:00.000-04:00Jack- I am torn about that, but that is another po...Jack- I am torn about that, but that is another post for a different day.<BR/><BR/>Anon- Why does who require college students or birthright alums? I agree with Jack when he says that parents who don't send their kids for 10 weeks don't do it b/c they want to save money, they do it b/c they aren't sure that they want their kids in Israel for 10 weeks. I never went on a peer tour, not because I didn't want to, but because my parents were concerned about my safety. And 6 weeks is a long time, and expensive (for those of us keeping track of how much it costs to live a Jewish life, add in trips to Israel).<BR/><BR/>I don't think that one can overhype birthright. Whatever else it may/may not achieve, it sends kids to Israel (and gives them a positive experience) that they might not otherwise have. That is the goal. To send kids to Israel. Having gone, I think that there are a lot of side benefits (for instance, a guy on my trip is coming to shabbat lunch at my house this week) including meeting other Jews, and developing positive feelings towards Israel. Not observance. I was relig before I went to Israel (for instance, I wore skirts full-time), and I was even more relig afterwards.<BR/><BR/>Point being: Birthright is a great opportunity given by an enormously generous group of donors. I cannot overstate how important their work is, and I think that they deserve all the credit that they recieve. The program isn't perfect, but that doesn't mean that it isn't an objective good.Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10434918343302976597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-66247281513637382532007-04-12T16:07:00.000-04:002007-04-12T16:07:00.000-04:00I know parents of high school students that were g...<I>I know parents of high school students that were going to send their kids on a summer program to Israel but decided not to because they could go on Birthright for free. Congratulations Birthright, you've just convinced parents to trade a 6 week experience for a 10 day experience, that's real progress.</I><BR/><BR/>Parents that give up a six week experience for a 10 day program are not necessarily sold on the idea of the longer program.<BR/><BR/>I am not convinced that this is an argument against Birthright.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-63294311321611817522007-04-12T15:23:00.000-04:002007-04-12T15:23:00.000-04:00Why do they require college student or birthright ...Why do they require college student or birthright alum? There are plenty of post-college students that went on trips before birthright and were therefore ineligible for birthright.<BR/><BR/>Birthright is one of the most hyped and overvalued programs out there. Sure you came out Jewishly active, but you would have regardless of Birthright. Birthright is all about serving the lowest common denominator with a free trip to Israel hoping that it might have an impact on a small number of students. I can think of a lot better uses of the money that would have a much better lasting impact on students.<BR/><BR/>I know parents of high school students that were going to send their kids on a summer program to Israel but decided not to because they could go on Birthright for free. Congratulations Birthright, you've just convinced parents to trade a 6 week experience for a 10 day experience, that's real progress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34805796.post-42357623292163732612007-04-12T15:00:00.000-04:002007-04-12T15:00:00.000-04:00One day I'll join the club and make aliyah.One day I'll join the club and make aliyah.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.com